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4 décembre 2012 2 04 /12 /décembre /2012 22:30

France

- Ce qu'a dit l'ambassadeur israélien au Quai d'Orsay, Armin Arefi (Le Point.fr)
http://www.lepoint.fr/monde/exclusif-ce-qu-a-dit-l-ambassadeur-israelien-au-quai-d-orsay-03-12-2012-1537929_24.php
   "Convoqué au Quai d'Orsay après l'annonce de Benyamin Netanyahou de construire 3 000 nouveaux logements [au-delà de la Ligne verte], l'ambassadeur israélien en France, Yossi Gal, a indiqué que "l'État d'Israël ne pouvait rester les bras croisés après l'initiative unilatérale de la Palestine à l'ONU, qui est une violation des accords d'Oslo". Une source diplomatique israélienne affirme au Point.fr que cette position de l'État hébreu avait été discutée avec la France lors des semaines précédant le vote à l'Assemblée générale de l'ONU.
    La source conteste toutefois que ce projet de construction soit illégal, comme l'a rappelé dimanche le secrétaire général de l'ONU Ban Ki-moon. "Nous avons le droit de construire sans limite à Jérusalem, qui est la capitale d'Israël. Ces constructions concernent autant les résidents juifs de Jérusalem que les arabes", assure-t-on côté israélien. Concernant les constructions en Cisjordanie, on affirme de source diplomatique israélienne que ces territoires ne sont pas occupés mais "disputés".
    L'ambassadeur israélien en France, Yossi Gal, a néanmoins indiqué à la diplomatie française que son pays était favorable à un retour aux négociations avec les Palestiniens, sans aucune condition préalable. "La seule voie pour trouver une solution est un retour à la table des négociations, pas une démarche à l'ONU", souligne-t-on côté israélien."

- Après le vote à l’ONU, Luc Rosenzweig (Chronique Radio J) - "Les cris d’orfraie des diplomates britanniques ou français ne changeront rien à une réalité incontournable : ces constructions, pour l’essentiel, sont programmées dans des zones qu’aucun gouvernement israélien n’accepterait d’abandonner dans le cadre d’un accord global".
http://www.fmradiosjuives.com/apres-le-vote-a-lonu/
   "Ceux qui croyaient que le vote à l’ONU du 29 novembre allait faire avancer la cause de la paix se sont lourdement trompés. Bien au contraire, cette admission d’un Etat palestinien sans réelle existence comme membre observateur des Nations Unies provoque un raidissement des positions de part et d’autre. On a fait les choses à l’envers : ce vote étant mathématiquement acquis, les démocraties occidentales auraient dû conditionner leur approbation à une reprise des négociations directes, sans conditions préalables, et non l’inverse.
    Le discours de haine prononcé à New York par Mahmoud Abbas a provoqué une riposte immédiate et attendue de Benyamin Netanyahou : l’annonce de la construction de nouveaux logements dans les implantations juives de Judée-Samarie et de Jérusalem-est. Les cris d’orfraie des diplomates britanniques ou français ne changeront rien à une réalité incontournable : ces constructions, pour l’essentiel, sont programmées dans des zones qu’aucun gouvernement israélien n’accepterait d’abandonner dans le cadre d’un accord global.
    Il s’agit des gros blocs d’implantations du Goush Etzion, de Maale Adoumim et d’Ariel et du périmètre urbain de Jérusalem. A force de mettre toutes les implantations dans le même sac, les diplomates et les commentateurs sèment la confusion : tout le monde sait, y compris les Palestiniens, qu’un retour pur et simple à la ligne de partage de 1949, dite ligne verte, est impensable. La négociation future, si elle a lieu, portera forcément sur les échanges de territoires entre Israël et le futur Etat palestinien.
    Alors, il faut prendre l’agitation diplomatique de ces derniers jours pour ce qu’elle est : de la gesticulation d’Etats européens incapables de s’entendre sur une politique commune conduisant vers la paix. Comme disait jadis Golda Meir : des Européens je préfère entendre des critiques que des condoléances."


Israël

- Deputy mayor: J'lem must build over Green Line, Melanie Lidman (JP) - "At the end of the day, the building policy comes down to necessity, not politics".
http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=294598
   "With condemnations raining down on Israel from around the world over controversial building projects over the 1967 Green Line, some observers are wondering, why doesn’t Jerusalem just build somewhere else? According to deputy mayor Naomi Tsur, Jerusalem has no choice but to build in these neighborhoods in order to address current housing shortages. Tsur holds the urban planning and environmental portfolios.
    The capital is currently facing a shortage of 40,000-50,000 apartments for all sectors, including haredi and Arab populations, who suffer from the worst housing shortages. The city’s current buzzword for new apartment construction is “density.” After environmental and urban planning activists threw out Moshe Safdie’s expansion plan of detached suburban houses in the hills west of the city as unsustainable, the city is working to build up existing neighborhoods by increasing the density of apartments. [...]
    That’s why the city turned to the “ring neighborhoods” of Pisgat Zev, Ramat Shlomo, Ramot, Gilo, and East Talpiyot, which are newer neighborhoods from the 1970s and more conducive to high-rise apartments, she said.
    Tsur explained that these areas are suitable for apartments that are 15 or 18 stories high. The city is also looking to build densely along the light rail. Plans are underway for a new 25-story apartment complex in Kiryat Moshe across from the large hotels and next to a stop on the light rail.
    The municipality also does not differentiate between neighborhoods on different sides of the Green Line, Tsur added. “The Green Line is not relevant in Jerusalem for a very simple reason,” she said. “We’re not an east/west divide, and the populations are very intermixed.” Additionally, according to the Clinton parameters, these ring neighborhoods are very likely to stay part of Israeli Jerusalem in a final status negotiation with the Palestinian Authority.
    At the end of the day, the building policy comes down to necessity, not politics, she said. “We can’t have people leave the city because they have nowhere to live,” she said. The municipality is actively working to stem the tide of young workers leaving the city because they have trouble finding employment with a salary that allows them to live in the city. The housing shortage causes rent to skyrocket for existing apartments. [...]"


Gaza & Hamas

- Hamas tells Fatah: Let’s fight Israel together, Khaled Abu Toameh (JP) - “Our hands are extended to Fatah to join the program of [armed] resistance and the liberation of Palestine.”
http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=294502
   "Hamas leader Mahmoud Zahar on Monday called on Fatah to join his movement in the fight against Israel and to stop wasting time and effort with the peace process. Zahar’s call came as Hamas and Fatah representatives stepped up their efforts to end their differences and achieve “national reconciliation.” Meanwhile, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas told reporters in Ramallah that his top priority now was to end the rivalry with Hamas, and said he saw no reason why the two sides could not reach an agreement on holding presidential and parliamentary elections.
    Speaking at a rally for Hamas supporters in Gaza City, Zahar said, “Our hands are extended to Fatah to join the program of [armed] resistance and the liberation of Palestine.” Addressing Fatah, he added, “Come and join the program of resistance and stop wasting your time and effort. Let’s join hands and carry the rifle together.” Zahar said that Fatah members who wish to join the “bandwagon of the triumphant, celebrate with us and become our partners are welcome.” [...]"

- PCHR sort-of admits Hamas uses kids as human shields (Elder of Ziyon) - "PCHR admits here (without condemnation, of course) that Hamas placed a military site only 12 meters away from a school!"
http://elderofziyon.blogspot.fr/2012/12/pchr-sort-of-admits-hamas-uses-kids-as.html


"Processus de paix"

- Constructions : les Palestiniens menacent Israël de poursuites (Guysen)
http://www.guysen.com/news_Constructions-les-Palestiniens-menacent-Israel-de-poursuites_369637.html
   "Nabil Chaath, haut responsable palestinien, a menacé Israël de poursuites pour crimes de guerre si la construction juive dans les Territoires disputés ne cesse pas. ''Israël continue à construire dans les colonies. Il s'agit d'un crime de guerre. Ce faisant, il nous pousse à saisir la Cour pénale internationale'', a-t-il affirmé."

- "Hey [Netanyahu], you dog, you invader" - Fatah official Jibril Rajoub on PA TV (Vidéo 35 secondes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3fc7ilhXnY
   "Fatah Central Committee member Jibril Rajoub demonizes Israeli PM Netanyahu as a "dog" and "invader" that "goes around barking." This is an example of the ongoing animalization and demonization of Israelis and Jews by the PA."

- Did Israeli settlements in the West Bank kill the two-state solution?, Douglas Murray (The Spectator)
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/douglas-murray/2012/12/did-israeli-settlements-in-the-west-bank-kill-the-two-state-solution/
   "When did the dream of a two-state solution die? When it became clear that there are already two Palestinian states – the Hamas-run Gaza and the Palestinian Authority-governed West Bank? Or when the extremists of Hamas fired thousands of missiles into Israeli cities? Or last week when the ‘moderates’ of Fatah once again refused Israeli offers to go to the negotiating table and instead moved to circumvent their only negotiating partner via a diplomatic coup at the UN?
    No, in the eyes of portions of the UK government as well as the international community, the two-state solution is threatened not by these consistent, physically and diplomatically violent moves; but by everybody’s favourite subject: Israeli settlement building.
    In the wake of the PA’s latest attempt to avoid negotiations, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced that Israel would respond in the way it saw fit. This seems to be an order to re-start settlement building in the West Bank.
    Fresh from his recent praise of the Muslim Brotherhood’s abilities as peacemakers, Ban Ki Moon has declared such a restart to be, ‘An almost fatal blow to remaining chances of securing a two-state solution.’ The British Foreign Office has issued similar warnings and now there is talk of ambassadors being summoned and even of London withdrawing its ambassador from Tel Aviv. Even the international stateswoman who presumes to speak on behalf of all Europeans on such matters – Catherine Ashton – has said she is ‘extremely worried’.
    Nobody would guess that among Israel’s neighbours at the moment the Assad regime is still happily murdering tens of thousands of Syrians or that the government of Egypt is successfully pulling off a counter-revolution to ensure that Egyptian voters got one vote once. They would look in vain for strong sentiments from Ban Ki Moon or the British Foreign Office when considering the PA’s recent two-state destroying decision to go to the UN with a statehood bid instead of trying to work out final status border agreements in direct talks with Israel. It takes the re-engagement of a few dozen Jewish builders to bring out this much ire. And there is a reason for that.
    Over the years I have visited quite a few Israeli and Palestinian settlements in the West Bank. It remains my view that the borders of a final status agreement are visible on the ground. After some difficult negotiations many of the larger Jewish towns will have to remain, as will many of the larger Palestinian towns. Whatever the final status agreement, it will leave behind the messiest-looking border on any world map. But who is responsible for the blockage in the meantime?
    Contrary to the wisdom of the Foreign Office et al, the blockage to peace is not Israeli settlement-building, unhelpful though that undoubtedly is. The bar to peace remains, as it always has been – as it was at Oslo, Camp David and over all the decades before and since – an unwillingness on the part of the Palestinians to accept the existence of the Jewish state and an almost completely ignored Palestinian insistence that the final-status Palestinian state should be completely and wholly free of Jews. Why otherwise could the borders not simply be drawn around the largest Jewish and Palestinian towns and for some Jews to continue to live in the Palestinian state as minorities, as much as Palestinians can, and do, live happily as minorities within the Jewish state?
    The international resistance even to acknowledge this issue is the reason why all the onus is still put on Israel. It is so much easier for the international community to pour all of its ire onto details of Israeli policy rather than to focus – and over time change – the totality of the Palestinian policy.
    Nevertheless, while restarting settlement building at this time is understandable it is also unwise. Unwise because it is so destructive for Israel’s reputation in the wider international community, but understandable because – just as after the brutal massacring of the Fogel family in Itamar – it is clear why Israel might seek to respond to the latest bout of PA misbehaviour by showing that there is a price to pay for circumventing the only path to peace: direct negotiations. Additionally, since the PA has co-opted the UN in its game of legal subversion, it is understandable if Israel should decide that international opinion at the UN can go to hell. Nevertheless, whilst there are some people who think that settlement building hurts the Palestinians most, for my part I think that it hurts them second most.
    However, putting all this aside, the disparity in the international reactions to Israel and the PA’s recent moves tells you everything you need to know about the playing field Israel currently finds itself on. All the current heavy-handed grandstanding aside, countries like this one know that the Israelis are our allies and that we see not only in this Israeli government, but in any government in Israel, one half of a final-status negotiating partner. The same cannot be said of the other party in those talks. Mahmoud Abbas has no control over the Gaza and has not even bothered to return to Palestinians in the West Bank to see if they still want him as their representative. Outsiders like France and Britain should know where pressure, both real and rhetorical, needs to be applied and where it does not.
    As I have said here before, the two-state solution is dead. But it was not the Israelis, and not the settlements, that killed it. Rather, it is the fact that after nearly seven decades the Palestinians are no closer to accepting reality and coming to the negotiating table than they were all those years ago."


Europe

- Nétanyahou sera à Prague demain (AFP) - "le seul pays européen à avoir voté jeudi à l'Assemblée générale de l'ONU contre la résolution ayant accordé à la Palestine le statut d'Etat observateur".
http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2012/12/04/97001-20121204FILWWW00610-netanyahu-sera-a-prague-demain.php
   "Le premier ministre israélien Benjamin Netanyahou se rendra demain en République tchèque, le seul pays européen à avoir voté jeudi à l'Assemblée générale de l'ONU contre la résolution ayant accordé à la Palestine le statut d'Etat observateur, a annoncé aujourd'hui le gouvernement à Prague. Benjamin Netanyahou rencontrera dans la capitale tchèque son homologue Petr Necas, avant de repartir le même jour pour Berlin où il s'entretiendra avec la chancelière allemande Angela Merkel.
    L'entretien de MM. Necas et Netanyahou portera sur "l'état du processus de paix au Proche Orient, la situation politique et sécuritaire dans cette région et le développement des relations économiques tchéco-israéliennes", selon un communiqué succinct du gouvernement tchèque. Benjamin Netanyahou avait déjà téléphoné samedi à Petr Necas pour le remercier du vote tchèque à l'ONU, qualifiant la position de Prague de "courageuse". Une majorité des Etats membres (138 des 193) ont accordé aux Palestiniens le statut d'Etat observateur, alors que neuf pays ont voté contre et 41 autres se sont abstenus.
   "Le soutien (tchèque) à Israël constitue l'un des derniers grands héritages de (l'ancien président) Vaclav Havel", a noté lundi le grand quotidien pragois Lidove Noviny. "La position tchèque, selon laquelle Israël, en tant qu'unique véritable démocratie dans la région (du Proche Orient), devrait bénéficier du plein soutien de l'Union européenne, est juste dans son principe", a aussi indiqué le journal."

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